kvchosting – Is Kvchosting beyond excellence or just a mirage
Sep 10
Kvchosting is the first of seven hosts that find themselves on webhostingstuff’s top 25 list for September 2010. I find myself commenting on the design on hosts, this host is no exception. Attention to detail says a lot about a host. Designing a site with colors a person may like is not the same as having a professional design. The main page has colors that I just don’t like, never mind I like the color blue. They have awards on the main page with links that do not work as well as a rewards page. Clearly they want people who come to their site to think that they are a good host. Using some of the same awards that other companies that claim to be a top host. So if you have not guessed I am going to review and take apart each award. So the question is what makes them so good. There not exactly a long term host.
Domain Whois record
Queried whois.internic.net with “dom kvcwebhosting.com”…
Domain Name: KVCWEBHOSTING.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC. Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS7.KVCHOSTING.COM Name Server: NS8.KVCHOSTING.COM Status: clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientRenewProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 23-mar-2010 Creation Date: 05-may-2009 Expiration Date: 05-may-2013
Keep in mind a creation date does not mean a start date. One perfect example would be a domain that I bought 10 years ago, and just this week finale came up with a idea for what I am going to do with it. Yet still that domain does not have an active website. It could have been months before Kvcwebhosting became active. At a glance I can tell you I have found reviews of the site from December 2009. There might be some earlier reviews. But its so strange for a company that is a year old to have as much or more reviews then HostGator.
Kvchosting awards 2010?
The thing I find funny in this picture is “2010 Hosting Awards?” Then there is a award dated December 2009 with webhostingdir.com. Why would there be a question mark? Is that to indicated that they are not sure they are awards or that they got them this year? 
Kvchosting award: Best Supportive Web Hosting
There is no link to where this award came from.
Kvchosting award: About.com
An annoymous review. It might has well have been faked, after all there is no website to look at.
Kvchosting award: RESELLERRATINGS.COM
Three reviews from three people that don’t show a website. Reviews were done 8/19/2010, 8/23/2010, 9/1/2010. Interestingly enough these people never used this site before then. This appears to be a site where you reveiw websites of any genere that sells online. 
Something does not seem right here.
Kvchosting award: hostreview.com
Ok so they are the 10th host on the list. But what exactly was it that made them the 10th host of choice? Where is the data and numbers. Simply all there is this:
“KVCHosting.com is a center that endeavors to make high-end technologyavailable by providing cheap and affordable quality web hostingpackages. KVC Hosting specializes in web hosting services of variouscategories, and since 2008 have been named as one of the fastest growingweb hosting companies for quality-driven, technology enriched andaffordable web hosting developers.”
2008? Really? The domain was created May 2009. How does a webhost offer service before their site existed?
Kvchosting award: webhostingstuff.com
At this time I can’t look at webhostingstuff, as it appears their site is down. So I will add a comment later.
Kvchosting award: findbestwebhosting.com
Once again another review, this time with just the name Jacqueline, but once again no website. I have a feeling that this review is the same as the about page.
Kvchosting award: softaculous NOC
No Link on kvchosting, and for that here is what they have posted where a link should be: “We Partner with softaculous” So not an award, or even a review. Its a partnership, or in this case something to extend the page.
Kvchosting award: Tjoos.com
Once again no link. For that matter this does not look like a review site. But all the search engine results looking for kvchosting and tjoos.com has one word in every search engine result on the main page “coupons”. Any time you see the word coupon and webhost together on a website you can tell that website is an affiliate.
Kvchosting award: castironhostingreview.com
Until today I had never heard of this site, and considering the design, primitive comes to mind. Perhaps why you don’t see this review site on other webhosts.
Ok here is a site where there are websites in the review, however the ratings are a bit weird and not all are 5 star. Some which should be all 3 star are somehow 5 star overall. Some of the three star ratings, have what equates to 5 star reviews. However one review sticks out:
Web Host: KVCHosting January 10th, 2010Posted By: nidhi – acid-reflux-symptoms.infoI’ve tried 5 other web hosting companies, none of them can remotely compare with the support and uptme that I’ve received from kvc hosting.
Is there a problem? Perhaps its that the creation of the domain name was months after the creation of the review:
Domain Name:ACID-REFLUX-SYMPTOMS.INFO Created On:23-Aug-2010 10:12:01 UTC
I suspect I should look at the other reviews in further detail. Frankly I can’t wait to get a look at the reviews on webhostingstuff.com.
Kvchosting award: web-hosting-top.com:
I don’t have alot of suspicions of web-hosting-top.com per say. Though I do think they are long over due for a face lift. But here is another case of funky reviews. Not to mention no websites to validate that the reviews were done by users of the service.
Starting from the cpanel hosting to the domain-managing tools, every feature of an ideal web hosting service was present in the package. Personally while writing the review on kvc hosting , I believe that there is no better web hosting.
For some reason there is a rating of 2.5 stars on Customer Relation and 3 stars on features.
Kvchosting award: comparewebhosts.com
Here we find they have one review, though I can’t see it, no idea who did it but I find this text again:
kvchosting.com – established in 2008. Kvchosting.com is a centre where high end technology joins hands with cheap web hosting packages. We are specialized in web hosting of all categories, since 2008 and are named amongst the fastest growing web hosting companies; for more quality driven, technology enriched and affordable web hosting. We have numerous clients, about 10000+ all round the globe, who have trusted our services and have long term hosting plans with us. Our data centre is located in Michigan (US) and the head office is in Oklahoma (US)
No suprise but guess when they joined comparewebhosts.com
Surprise its the same year as the creation of the domain.
In regards to 10,000 plus clients, I refer you back to:
http://www.web-hosting-top.com/web-hosting/web-hosting-top.kvchosting.com-reviews
According to web-hosting-top.com they have 3224 domains. I have made it a point in the past to clarify that the number of domains does not equal the amount of customers. In this case its hard to picture that they have 10,000 plus customers.
Kvchosting award: alreadyhosting.com
In the past I made it clear this review site is an affiliate site. Any site that offers you a coupon clearly is nothing more then a affiliate. But here is the thing that sticks out to me.
It almost appears that they had no one visiting back in May.
Kvchosting award: thewebhostingdir.com
Two more reviews, once again no websites to validate if these are hosting customers. But here I see promises of 90 day guarantee. Sure I have no problem with that. My problem is I have seen places where its 45 days. Looking at the main page for Kvchosting, I can’t find anything in regards to if its 45 or 90 days. Clearly there is a 99.9% uptime. But the money back guarantee is no where to be found on the main page amongst the many graphics to highlight why you should choose this host.
Kvchosting award: webhostingrating.com
Zero, thats right there is nothing to look at. There is no reviews. No endorsements either. The best there is, is this:
Monitored since:
28 November 2008
Monitored sites:
25
Total days of monitoring:
467 days
Kvchosting award webhostdir.com November / December 2009
I have covered webhostdir in the past, frankly they suck in regards to being a review site because they do not provide one thing and thats proof of how one host is better then another. This is how they determine who is best:
Every month we rank the 25 most popular companies on Web Host Directory USA .
The “25 Most Popular List” is based on the number of votes a company receives and the amount of times their profile page has been viewed each month. This ensures that every month we provide an up to date list of companies you can trust for your hosting needs.
We offer service providers the opportunity to improve their popularity ranking by encouraging their visitors to vote for them. Our voting buttons can be obtained by logging into www.serchen.com.
So its based off votes (I don’t see who received how many votes) and traffic. This stinks of massive “fail”. This does not tell you who to trust, or is there any indicator of quality.
Hello,
Thanks for the information. I was a bit concerned with the nearly 100% positive feedback I was found on the internet. It seemed too good to be true. Some things didn’t quite line up.
On the flip side, did you check out their BBB rating? I did that and they’ve been registered since January 1, 2009. They had two complaints that appeared to be resolved. That says something about them being legitimate and committed to some good business practices.
The reviews are a separate issue in some ways, I guess. I’m not an affiliate, either.
https://www.bbb.org/oklahoma-city/business-reviews/internet-web-hosting/kvchostingcom-in-edmond-ok-90016412
Thanks,
Ryan
Hello Ryan,
I can give kvchosting credit for handling complaints with the BBB. But the Better Business Bureau does not see all complaints. Nor does the BBB always close the complaints because they were handled properly. This is not a host that I picked out just because they existed, they are on my blog because they choose to purchase “advertising” from webhostingstuff.com, depending on how much a host pays determines where on the top 25 they are.
Alot of the positive feed back I see is very supcious like whats on http://www.web-hosting-top.com/reviews/kvchosting.com
After all how many start with “Kvchosting offer, “Kvchosting provides”. Not to mention where positive feed back has been left, there have been low star ratings.
Regards,
Benjamin
Hello,
I came across this review after checking kvchosting reviews while on the lookout for a decent vps plan.
points mentioned by Benjamin, i checked the home page awards and they seem legit. (btw above reviews composition is made around 80% on the subject of there awards, not there quality of service or uptime, just facts.)
last section on review and in comments. I see you claim not legit ppl made those reviews in favor, i doubt that because after seeing these
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1004262&highlight=kvchosting
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1045497&highlight=kvchosting
seems like satisfied ppl, don’t they??
anyways, these are my thoughts.
Regards
Bandara
PS: really enjoyed below
1. “The main page has colors that I just don’t like”, (just great, reviews composition made of site colors, come on ppl are we making a drawing)
2. “This is not a host that I picked out just because they existed, they are on my blog because they choose to purchase “advertising” from webhostingstuff.com” (from comment #2)
(sorry but i didn’t knew advertising is bad business strategy)
Hello Bandara,
“Seems” like your a non-interested outside source, of coarse if you understand the word seems, you will also understand that everything is not what it seems. If you noticed when I said advertising, I stated it as “advertising”, those quotation marks had a reason for being there. The reason is to imply that while it may have been called advertising, it was not advertising. If you bothered to read the full comment you would have seen that:
“This is not a host that I picked out just because they existed, they are on my blog because they choose to purchase “advertising” from webhostingstuff.com, depending on how much a host pays determines where on the top 25 they are.”
Advertising when it comes to webhostingstuff.com is a key word for paying for false ranking on a top 25 list. Because there is no clear form of advertising, or evidence of.
Read this link to find out about other so called purchasers of “advertising” that also appeared with kvchosting on the top 25.
http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com/webhostingstuff-com/webhostingstuff-com-a-rigged-contest.html
Clearly some “advertising” is a bad business strategy. I suggest you do a bit more research before you trust what seems to be to good too be true.
Also I find it funny that one of those webhostingtalk.com links has this on one of the forums:
“P.S. I have read a lot of reviews in webhosting talk and I have seen ppl accusing reviewers of being affiliated with hosting companies or even promised rewards from hosting companies. so here it goes:
I was NEVER promised anything nor I am in any way affiliated with KVCHosting.
This is a honest review based on my experience with them.”
I have to ask does any one smell a troll?
Regards,
Benjamin
Hello,
Thanks for the reply, a quick follow up and pointing out the facts,
“seems” like your defining the a word “seems” rather than answering the points i have raised, as around 70% of your reply consist of answering #2 in my postscript.
And fyi i understand the meaning of “seems” and please do explain why i do “seems” a non-interested outside source.
Also i read your entire blog post and saw the “advertising” and what you implied there. Want to say just this here, not going get into webhostingstuff.com business practice.
You mention that
“This is not a host that I picked out just because they existed, they are on my blog because they choose to purchase “advertising” from webhostingstuff.com, depending on how much a host pays determines where on the top 25 they are.” (from comment #2)
“The reason is to imply that while it may have been called advertising, it was not advertising. If you bothered to read the full comment you would have seen that:” (from reply to my comment #3)
“Advertising when it comes to webhostingstuff.com is a key word for paying for false ranking on a top 25 list. Because there is no clear form of advertising, or evidence of. ” (from reply to my comment #3)
Maybe webhostingstuff.com sells off there ranking (be it false or true), but in what terms it is not advertising when a party buys something from service provider (in this case webhostingstuff.com) to promote there services. Do correct me if I’m wrong here.
And your accusing of a webhostingtalk.com user for there review being funny, on terms of his postscript, maybe users need to read all of his review,(maybe post full review rather than just a the postscript), don’t you agree?
Also you accuse me of being a troll, well it “seems” when we do point out facts in your posts we become trolls.. readers you decide!
Regards
Bandara
PS: Benjamin also accuse me of not reading his whole post “If you bothered to read the full comment you would have seen that:”
Just want to say here check my name in my comment (#3) and whom Benjamin replied to in comment #4.
Hello Bandara,
I apologize for misspelling your name.
If you understood what I meant by “advertising”, you would not have said “sorry but i didn’t knew advertising is bad business strategy“. As for “Maybe webhostingstuff.com sells off there ranking (be it false or true) “ If you read that link I sent you to, you would realize that the system is indeed rigged, and they do sell off off ranking, I have several hosts that admit to it, one in particular I posted my email exchange if you read that link I sent you to. As one person I am in contacted stated:
“The list is different every day/week.
Depending on how much credits each provider has left.
and how much they want to bid for each spot.”
I am not accusing the posters of creating feed back, but I do find there reviews very suspicious. After all why would a reviewer bring up their review not being a fake? I have read a lot of reviews on webhostingtalk.com , and rarely if ever do I see people doing what he claimed.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1004262&highlight=kvchosting
The other reviewer does not actually answer any questions in the post.
In the days of reputation management companies, its not hard to believe that reviews can not be fake.
As for calling you a troll, that was more or less applied to the the webhostingtalk.com reviews. But I can see where you would think I thought that of you. After all your not a customer (or are you now?. And whats your website?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group’s actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed “concerns”. The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.
Regards,
Benjamin
excellent service with highest uptime. I vouch for this company as i used them for past 1 year, deliver 99.9% uptime as they promised.
They have the superior livechat and email support but lack of phone support which not biggie for me
Hello Donavan,
I see that your domain has been on their name servers since January, however most of the sites I look at for traffic history such as Alexa say that your site has not really taken off. I would be intrested to hear what you think of them in 6 months from now.
Regards,
Benjamin
I’ve been with KVC for several years now and also have clients hosted with them.
I’ve been at this since the mid 90′s and find KVC one of the best we’ve ever used, and we use several more hosting companies.
I’ve used their ticket system, live chat and phone support with excellent results.
And Benjamin, Alexia ratings are nothing to compare how a site is doing. Most designer developers ignore their ratings.
You seem to have more of a personal blog here than anything else.
Hello Bleau,
Here is something you should do if you are going to endorse a hosting company, provide a domain that is hosted with them. Something to provide doubt that you are not here to troll my blog.
I find it amazing you have been with them since the mid 90’s. After all their domain creation date states September 22, 2008. Meaning this fall they will be 4 years old. But I suppose you’re going to tell me that whois information is not relevant to a site either?
I don’t know if you were attempting to insult me by saying : You seem to have more of a personal blog here than anything else.“, but if I had one of those ego’s that people hope to bruise I would not have allowed your site to see the light of day. However comments are good for increasing my search engine ranking and lowering my Alexa score. I thank you for refraining from any use of profanity.
But as far as Alexa not having anything to do with how a site is doing —- You have no idea what Alexa is do you? In short the lower your Alexa score the better. Amazon.com has an 11. Who reading my blog would not want to have the site rankings of Amazon?
Kvchosting.com is at a respectable 63,807. This site is at around 160,000, I own a few under 20,000. I don’t really see any income from my sites until they are under 1,000,000 (income meaning the sites actually start paying for themselves). I could go on and on and on about how it is relevant. But Donavan does not even have a rank still. Frankly when Alexa does not list a rank it pretty much means the owner is doing nothing and they are not getting any traffic.
But why did I list Alexa?
Alexa is one of those points I list to kick the proverbial tires on a review. A site with an Alexa score above 3,000,000 is generally not active, or just starting out. Generally if I see a site is active, and their whois details show they have been with a host for 6 months or more I don’t draw attention to someone posting a positive review about one of the hosts that found their way to my blog.
But if you want to believe Alexa has no measure in how a site is doing, I have ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
Regards,
Benjamin
I didn’t say I had been with them since the mid 90′s. I said I had been doing this since the mid 90′s and have owned a design-development company and own other businesses since the late 90′s.
I never post my site on any forum or blog because it’s a corporate site and on a dedicated server.
I am also not a troll nor am I scamming your blog here.
I can assure you I know all about Alexia and it’s done nothing for or against my company and we certainly don’t depend on Alexia for anything. I doubt very seriously anyone outside the design development hosting industry has ever heard of Alexia and could care less about them.
Taking a lot of hits on our site or sites has never done anything for it’s ranking nor has social networking.
We’re ranked on the front page of Google and at the top of the page…it’s called branding.
Good luck on your blog here and try not to slam a hosting company unless you’ve personally used them and then want to write your rant to the word.
It could come back to bite you when slamming a company.
I also will be signing new clients with KVC this week because of their excellent service and excellent and fast support.
Oh, and I don’t use profanity so that won’t happen from me.
Bleau,
Sorry I misread the many years part. However just because you have some level of experience since the mid 90′s does not mean anything. I have been bowling since the mid 80′s yet that don’t make me professional bowler. Though I will profess to be a professional at getting the most gutter balls.
Perhaps Alexa has no bearing on what your company does, for example you run a site for a local bowling alley. In which case you are not going to be concerned with how search engines such as Google deal with your site. However if you sell goods of any kind to people outside of your small corner of the world Alexa is an important tool when you rely on visitors through search engines to find your site as many sites do. For this site when it comes to someone posting a positive post, I use it to see if the commenter has anything going on. No visits to a site leads to it having no rating, as this site has Donavan. Having someone tell you to try a host, even though they are new (whois) and their site is not showing any traffic does not make them a very good indicator if a host should be tried.
Please do not try to BS me about alexa having nothing to do how a site is doing. That is only for those doing design development hosting, as that is load of crap. As for getting on the top of search engines being called branding, that is also a load of crap. Why do you think I am on the top of search engine results for many hosts? It’s not called branding that is for sure. I am on the top of search engine results because I have SEO experts that have guided me to where this and my other sites are at. SEO experts I work with on every site that I design. Alexa for this site shows me how this site is doing in terms of its reach. Keep in mind I work on this site in my spare time.
“Taking a lot of hits on our site or sites has never done anything for its ranking nor has social networking.”. I have no idea what you do with your site, so I can’t say whether it would be helpful for you or not. Nor do I have any idea what you mean by hits. Do you mean visitors? Alexa is about traffic. Alexa is nothing more than a tool that tells you where you are amongst other sites. Hence why Amazon is 11, yahoo.com is 5, FaceBook.com is 2, Google.com is 1. It’s about the traffic/visitors.
I would really have to know what it is that your site does in order to comment on rather Alexa and social media would help. Not to mention to see if and how you used social media.
As for slamming this host that you came here to troll for (sorry not really buying your reasons for not posting a web site) also by trolling, does not mean you are here to scam me. It generally means to incite or bring doubt. Clearly you are here to shed doubt on my post. Do you have even the slightest idea what this post was about? Why exactly I choose to do a post on them? Out of the thousands of hosts that are out there, there is a reason I decided to review these awards or lack of what defines an award for this host. Their awards are open for anyone to review just as I have done here. I strongly anyone that chooses this or any host to review the awards just as I have done.
Regards,
Benjamin