– Is anyone home?

Yeah I know is not a host, for that matter they are not even a review site.  This post is more of away to try and get their attention.  This is even a site that I can honestly say I respect.  But and the author of one of their posts have ignored my emails:

To be percise this is the exact reason I am trying to get their attention, they accuse me of:

Here is a list of Host gator google bombing with fake websites and prolifically self-aggrandizing sponsored conversations to bury negative reviews:

Based off one of my first posts: hostgator bad web host read honest hostgator review

In short he pastes part of my post: [sic] likes to brag about numbers”, “Even though Hostgator has their own building, it does not appear they have their own server center, and they to [sic] like the first three companies I reviewed that are also using”, “Even though is only in number 5th position, they probable [sic] should be in the top position at

That is not an exact quote from my site.  For that matter the miss over the details that prove I am not “google bombing“, nor am I “prolifically self-aggrandizing sponsored conversations to bury negative reviews“.  Hostgator is not paying me to write about themTo be honest yes I was copying what those so called Google bombers have done, and those Google bombers have even accused me of such.  Over time though I have not done it so much as it gets a bit boring. While I do enjoy a good link, I would be happier if it was in a proper context.  I honestly really love it when some one is trashing me for what I am really doing.  But calling my site fake? Not so much.  This author did not do his research. – I am not “google bombing

First off let me explain I claim to be no expert at blogging, and this site is not making me a income to live off of.  I started this because back in Oct 2007 I found a site called that thought it was a good idea to remove my positive feed back given to my company by customers.  In short when I confronted this so called review site he blocked me from further communications. Long story short, was born.

Which lead to the creation of this video.

 So do I need to show further proof?

A little after that post on, I got spammed from hostgator’s affiliates:

Which I am sure I will see happen again before November, and have friends that have promised to send me Hostgator’s advance warning to so I can do an advance broad cast next time.

So how about issuing a correction?

I can respect not liking hostgator, after all they used to be one of my competitors.   Not to mention they fuel fake review sites like  The person who choose to post their rant on did not read my post in full before grouping me with others.

You would think they could at least beat Arvand.  Perhaps hostgator paid in advance for their “advertising” on for that 5th spot. I would suggest contacting to get a push up on those rankings, perhaps hostgator can get in a bidding war with iPage for that number 1 spot …… sorry I meant advertising does not “sell” rankings *eye roll*. Did I forget to mention the mysterious disappearing negative fee back.”

Perhaps my sarcasm was not evident?  I am still wetting my feet, and I make no claims at being a professional blogger. But I make it a point to read before I post links.  What I find interesting, that the only mention of (who is doing the damage your writer was worried about) was mentioned by me.  Yet this is absent on the post.

Come on Seclists, everyone makes a mistake so please issue a correction.

ThePrimeHost, is a flip flop?

ThePrimeHost,  number 25 of 25 for’s  May 2010 list and the finale host to review from this  list.  At this time they are no longer in the top 25 list.  The design of the site is fairly modern, but it seems cluttered.  There are too many graphics grabbing my attention.  What sticks out at first glance of their site is “Now hosting over 15,000 websites since 2001”.  That in my opinion is an honest statement.  But it leaves a lot of details out.  Is that total from 2001 to today, or is it current amount hosted?  15,000 websites is not 15,000 customers.  They after all offer reseller hosting.   Meaning they could have customers that have 1  or far more websites.  Ultimately the number of sites hosted is irrelevant compared to the number of customers.

ThePrimeHost where to start?

Looking through the site I find a lot of quirks.  There are lot of parts of the site that would make my business partner (the one in charge of every bit of sales text be it email or web sites) cringe.  The order form is drawn out through several pages, I often wonder if too many pages can detour someone from signing up for service.  Then any search engine results I  find have lots of positive reviews, yet there are people out there that claim that the reviews are fake.  Then there is an affiliate program thats disabled.

ThePrimeHost affiliate program

The affiliate system is very similar to those of hostgator, ipage, fatcow, bluehost, and others of its like where there is high payouts.  But for some reason they are stuck at 11,000 sites.  I find it odd that they are so far behind when they are older then many of those hosts that use this insane concept.  It works for these large scale “unlimited” hosts because they have ways of getting out of payments, and not everyone finds a host through their affiliates.   But it drives affiliates to promote the site for what in the end will be a big payout.  Not to mention the more pages that mention your url the better it works for a sites search engine results.   The essential problem with the hosting review industry is that people are promoting the high payouts as the best host regardless if they are not the best.   I tend to think that its no coincidence that they are no longer on Webhostingstuff’s top 25,  while ThePrimeHost’s affiliate sign ups have been disabled.

In regards to the term “Make Bank”, I think the urban dictionaries second defintion works out for this.

to extract as much money as possiable from a player at the poker table.

I slow played the nut flush cause I knew I would make bank on the river.

It appears they only tried one Google ad campaign:

I can tell you that it takes more then one month to make Google Ads payout.

ThePrimeHost reviews

Here is my problem with the reviews, first the below image is the reviews on their own site:

This is from their site:

The one thing I notice is there is only one website listed-, and the domain is expired.  Then there is a anonymous review.  I had one company where we asked for reviews, we required a first name and their website.  The encouragement was that they could get traffic from our site (afterwards the reviews came flying in).   The lack of websites from the reviews has me wondering if the people claiming “the postive ThePrimeHost reviews are false” may very well be right.

Finale Thoughts on ThePrimeHost

This is another host that while having some years in their belt, they haven’t quite figured out how to get their word out there.  They try one month of Google Adwords, and then stop.  They try, despite the growing public knowledge that this review site is a scam, and quit.  They try what their bigger competitors do unethically and then suspend access to their affiliate program.   11,000 sites is not a lot, especially since they are running a reseller program.  While ThePrimeHost has been around a while they have not learned a sure fire method for bringing in and keeping customers.

Netmar, Is ready to take care of your future hosting needs?

Netmar, number 24 of 25 for’s  May 2010 list.  As of today they are now number 9.  So they are paying more for a better position in the Webhostingstuff listings.  Their design seems dated,  no telling when the last time the site had a face lift.  According to them they have been in business as of 1994, and the domain creation date backs them up on this.  But their about page makes me suspect that have not been in the webhosting as lon.

Netmar is wholly owned and operated by the Akinli family of Durham, NC. Established in 1994 as the company behind the Tarheel Mall, we quickly discovered that the online mall concept was not going to be around for long, and abandoned it in favor of straight website hosting

This is another company that I have to wonder when exactly they got into the webhosting business.  Like the last host I reviewed there is not alot of information on this host.  For that matter alot of hosts that do reviews have no reviews from this self proclaimed oldest host.

The oddest thing I found while looking for information on them:

Webhostingstuff’s information on Netmar

This time I started looking over the info on webhostingstuff in regards to Netmar.   While I am sure they erase the info that does not work in their favor they are sloppy in how they do it.   There is a lot of incriminating information that is often left behind.

One Netmar review sticks out

Looking at the reviews I can tell you they should not have a 5 star rating.

Some how with 6 reviews one “poor” review can not keep this host from being listed as anything less then 5 stars.  I also find it hard for this review to have 3 stars on tech support considering that is what this complaint is about.

Netmar uptime records with webhostingstuff.

Curiosly Netmar’s first review was August 15, 2006.  However their uptime records only go to Febuary 2010 of this year.

I suppose you might thing that webhostingstuff only keeps track of this much information on all hosts, but clearly not the case if you look at HostGator’s uptime.

Hostgator’s uptime history goes all the way back to September 2005.  I would expect that webhostingstuff would have tracked the uptime no later then Augusts 2006.

My Finale thoughts on Netmar

They have moved from the 24th to 9th position, but they appear to be behind the times.  It does not appear that they offer a ticket system.  When I first started it soon became apparent that support by email was not going to be effective.  We went to  a ticket system with in the first 3 months of operation.   This is a company that has no visible ticket system:

“At Netmar, we’ve put together a huge repository of online help, but of course, we’re still available to answer your phone calls and emails.”

A support ticket system allows for quality assurance.  For someone like me it allowed for efficient random checks on tickets to ensure that staff are doing their job or that customers are not abusing the system.

I don’t think based on the design of the site that the Netmar is capable of offering a serious hosting solution.

LFC Hosting, is and outdated host?

LFC Hosting is number 23 of 25 for’s  May 2010 list.   As of today, their site is no longer on the top 25 list.   The domain was created in May 31, 1998.  I have to wonder if the design is the original that it had started with.  As much as it may seem pointless to bring up the design, I feel that the design is a sign of how much a company progresses.   I know not every host has their own design team, my own sites went through at least three changes a year.  Not to mention there were changes according to sales events, seasons, and holidays.  We were probable a little too excessive in our changes.  But things like Front Page extensions disappeared from offerings at least 5 years ago.  Things such as WordPress were taking center stage as their popularity advanced.  Clearly LFC Hosting site  is not up-to-date, and you have to wonder are the staff ready for todays hosting needs?     LFC Hosting seems stuck in the past, and I am willing to bet that this site design is at best 7 years old.

So what makes me think LFC Hosting site design has not updated since 2003?

From LFC Hosting main page I click on “Products and Services”, then click on “Hosting” It brings me to this long unnecessary sales spill about their use of Window 2003.  Here is the part that stuck out to me:

Although we run Windows 2003 in the foreground, over half of our networkis actually Linux. Windows 2003/IIS 6.0 servers are employed in theforeground to ensure optimal performance and stability of Windows capabilities (which typically only work well under Windows), as well as anincreased level of security over a single platform. Then, “redirectors”, router “port forwarding” and proprietary LFC technology “forward” all requests for Linux-specific technologies (ex: MySQL 5 databases) to the appropriate Linux server clusters in the background!

I have no idea what any of that means, perhaps because I am not a server tech (I started this business as a webdesigner so I am more of a graphics person). This pretty much looks like jibberish, and I would never have allowed a page like this to preceded access to the order form. I am also no expert on Windows hosting.  Most of my operations involved cPanel, Plesk, and bare bones Linux.  My preference is Plesk, while not user friendly it is far more stable then cPanel.  So I had to ask a friend that deals with Windows, and he tells me that 2003 is outdated and not supported by Microsoft, 2008 is the current version.  Which I had a feeling 2003 was outdated  as 7 years seems along time for software to last unless its with my parents or a video game.

Is LFC Hosting a stagnant host?

I think the answer to that is yes, while I am not sure how reliable is, but comparing Hostgator to LFC Hosting I see a huge difference between them.   Host Gator shows no lose in sites but rather gains, where as as LFC Hosting shows points where it was bleeding out sites.  It appears they have no more then 7000 domains.  Which tells me they have don’t have many customers.

compare to:

A attempted chat with LFC Hosting

Unfortunately as you can see no luck, instead I got the following:

No one was available when I tried to chat

Finale thoughts on LFC Hosting

The thought that goes through my head every time I form a business is that most die off before they reach their 5th year. LFC Hosting appears to be a site that has done just that, but only just barely.  It clings to life, even though it refuses to adapt to the market.   I have to wonder how long a host such as this can keep on going, and I will definatly have my eye on it.  Hopefully this post can encourage them to do something.   LFC Hosting should have used the money they used to get in Webhostingstuff”s top 25 for a new design.

Steadfast Networks, will be a stable solution?

Steadfast Networks, number 22 of 25 for’s  May 2010 list.   I can’t say I like the design for this site as I am not sure it fits on the standard monitor.   When it comes to designing websites, I have always operated under the assumption that you want a site to fit left to right on the smallest common monitor.  I can’t minimize the browser on this site without parts of the right side of the site disappearing.

Is there dirt on Steadfast Networks?

There is not alot of dirt, for that matter I can not find much out about NoZone, Inc, let alone Steadfast Networks.  The review sites are out there.  But some have no reviews while others only have a few.

How old is Steadfast Networks?

By there own ommision:

Steadfast Networks is a fully owned subsidiary of NoZone, Inc., which was founded in August of 1998 by Karl Zimmerman and incorporated in the state of Wisconsin on October 18, 2000.

Regardless of when NoZone, Inc was founded. When was created?

Domain Whois record

Queried with “dom”…

   Domain Name: STEADFAST.NET
   Registrar: ENOM, INC.
   Whois Server:
   Referral URL:
   Name Server: NS10.STEADFAST.NET
   Name Server: NS11.STEADFAST.NET
   Name Server: NS12.STEADFAST.NET
   Name Server: NS13.STEADFAST.NET
   Name Server: NS14.STEADFAST.NET
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Updated Date: 08-jul-2010
   Creation Date: 04-jun-2006
   Expiration Date: 04-jun-2018 info:

Site Established: 4 Jun 2006 (4 years and 79 days ago)
Traffic Popularity: #103 of 10,289 companies

Is Steadfast Networks a green host?

Same old, same old.  There is nothing unique about their being green.  Its just more greenwashing.    They recycle “paper and cans”, they reuse parts.  But what about when the machines are no longer useful: We either find additional uses for them internally, strip them to re-use the parts individually, or donate them to charitable use. If you are aware of any charitable causes looking to take older computer hardware please contact us, as we’re always looking for more partners. They buy their carbon offsets from

Hostingsthatsuck says Steadfast Networks does not suck

It should be no surprise that Hostingsthatsucks (whom rarely profiles a host that sucks), thinks  that does not suck.  Every site that I have reviewed on their listings have affiliate links, so its really not in their interests to look for dirt.  They claim to have only found three actually complaints about Steadfast Networks

Finale thoughts on Steadfast Networks

Frankly there is not enough info out there for Steadfast Networks.  In comparison with other companies that have been open for 2 – 4 years there are not a lot of relevant search engine results.

scalahosting – Is there dirt on

Scalahosting was number 21 of 25 for’s  May 2010 list. But now they are at 16.   The owner of the companies name is Vince Robinson.  But details are sketchy at best as there is not much to go on.  Sure there lots of positive reviews about scalahosting.   But I suspect there may be one too many positive reviews.  Especially after my last post on how to write reviews.

So why am I suspicous of the postive reviews about Scalahosting on

A claim of housing 18,000 domains seems honest.  But it does not tell us how many customers they have.   Back when I first started I would say that was a lot of domains (1999 I was still buying domains at $70 from Network Solutions).   But towards 2005 it would seem far less as cheaper domain registers were popping up every where.   I had one customer that had over 400 domains all of which were for an affiliate system with Rexxal (atleast I think that was the company).  Scalahosting seems to have alot of postive reviews and very few negative.

A not so kind review about Scalahosting on

It has to do with the discussion.

Why might you ask does this review matter?  Because this is not the only place he tried to post a review:

I have not looked further because one of the problems I have had while searching for negative feed back is I get stuck in pop up hell and sites that change to something that is by no means ‘G’ rated.    But it stands to reason if he found these two sites and made a page dedicated to it on his site that he probable found and other companies.  Frankly there seems be more information on review sites then any other sites

My Finale thoughts on Scalahosting

Its probable nothing, but Scalahosting is on the same network as

Here is an inhterview with the founder of Scalahosting Vince Robinson:

I admit there is not a lot of dirt on this company, and perhaps they deserve their postive feed back.   But I have to wonder about this one negative reviewer that seem to have a vendetta with this hosting company.  Why would he not find to post a review there as well?

As long as Scalahosting shows in the top 25 hosting postions with webhostinstuff, I recommend caution.

Indichost – Will be an awarding hosting solution for you?

At number 20 out of 25 from Webhostingstuff’s May 2010 list we come to Indichosts.

Starting at $1 a month you can get hosting from Indichosts,  order now

This graphic on their main page  is the first thing that sticks out to me when I visit their site.   I clicked on it because I wanted to see how many years it took to get $1 a month.  The problem is the order now button takes you to a plan thats closer to $10 a month under a three year term.   There is no option to pick another plan.  You have to click on the tabs below the penguin to find a plan thats  “at $1 a month” .

Where the heck is Indichosts terms of service?

One of the things I have done with almost every host is read the terms of service.  You simply can not find it from the main page.  I tend to wonder if their credit card processor bothered to look at the site.  Because every merchant I have gone through looks for that.  Its never been my experience that PayPal looks, you think they would in order to add that sense of being a more authentic website your doing business with.     In order to find the terms of service, you have to go through the order form and at the point you enter your credit card you get do you agree with the terms of service check.

I am not sure who looks under the about page to find terms of service.   But obscure terms of service and not so clear order now to get hosting at $1 a month is not the most interesting thing about this site.

Indichosts Testimonials, Feedback, and “awards”

On this page I find no feed back, for that matter I find nothing but praise.   I imagine any negative feed back is deleted as opposed to a page that would lead people to believe there is nothing wrong with this host.   There are people that are complaining about this company.

Indichosts Webhost Directory award

Indichosts does not actually have an award with  Granted some day I want to see what it takes to get an award with this company.  Though Webhostdir, does not allow for negative feed back that I can see. is defiantly on my back burner for a later date.

Indichosts award

Would it surprise you to know I too have an award with

My Website grade is:
The Website Grade for!

I don’t think Indichosts is using the actual code like I have done.   Right now they actually have a 97 instead of a 96.   But here is the thing about Web Site Grader, it has nothing to do with how good sites service is.  Unlike fake review sites is a site that tells you how you are doing in regards to search engine ranking.  They get their money by telling you how to do better.   I actually plugged a few of my own sites in and I have found several sites that need improvement.  I may very well try websitegrader out later

Finale Thoughts on Indichosts

There is alot of faking going on with Indichosts.   For one they claim to be around for 7 years.  But the whois information says that the domain was created back in 2005:

Domain Whois record

Queried with “dom”…

   Domain Name: INDICHOSTS.NET
   Whois Server:
   Referral URL:
   Updated Date: 24-mar-2010
   Creation Date: 27-feb-2005
   Expiration Date: 27-feb-2013

On top of that they are using, but for some reason Indichosts does not bother to use the award they paid for amongst the award they did not win and the award that anyone can get.   Hosting with Indichosts would be a gamble in my opinion.

iWeb Technologies Inc – If you host with will your email get through?

number 19 for May 2010 webhostingstuff is iWeb Technologies Inc.  Despite the massive amount of complaints I can find in regards to iWeb Technologies Inc they have moved from 19 to 15.  The first thing that comes to mind is iPad, iPod, and iMac.  But this site has nothing to do with with Apple.’s ratings for iWeb Technologies

Despite averaging all 9 reviews I get the following rating from

Uptime and Reliability 4.22 out of 5
Technical Support 2.44 out of 5
Customer Service 2.56 out of 5

For some reason a 3 out of 5 star rating is enough to move from the 19th to 15th position.

How old is iWeb Technologies Inc?

This graphic sticks out:

Here is what iWeb Technologies Inc /’s domain whois tells me:

   Updated Date: 23-oct-2009
   Creation Date: 29-mar-1999
   Expiration Date: 29-mar-2019

The creation date does not match the “since” year

iWeb Technologies Inc Awards

iWeb Technologies is another company that has an awards page with the review.  Like some of the hosts I have reviewed there is not link to the companies where they got the awards.

iWeb Technologies Inc, award

So far the only thing I can find on that leads to an award is something about 8th place’s Web Hosting Magazine award

A pharagraph does not really sum up why they deserve an award in 2005’s Webhosting Directories award

In a previous post I had explained that had given an a review with out This review site never explains why someone gets an award.  For that matter I don’t see feed back from the people whose opinion matters, the customers.

My finale thoughts on iWeb Technologies Inc

When I do search for iWeb, I see a a lot of complaints.  But some of those complaints seem to be written by the same person.  Perhaps there are a lot of people with bad grammar / bad typing.  But one of the biggest complaints I see are in regards to spam, phishing, and spyware.  One example is:

At this time they have a 2 complaints with Spamhaus, the place they mention having an award with:

Found 2 SBL listings for IPs under the responsibility of


13-Aug-2010 13:33 GMT
Snowshoe Spam Hosting (

13-Aug-2010 13:25 GMT
Suspected Snowshoe Spam Range (EWMKT)

Chances are if you host with iWeb Technologies Inc, your email probable will not reach other networks.

GreenGeeks Not for Geeks? Is it a iPage clone or just another host that sucks?

Number 17 of May 2010, GreenGeeks another greenwashed company.   When I loaded this site the first thing I thought was that this company looked like another company I reviewed.

Side by side this company looks a lot like iPage.   But from there I have a trouble finding any other similarities.  They are owned by different entires on separate parts of the country.  They are not even on the same network.   Asides for the same chat program I am not sure if there is much else that would connect them.   But I think there may be a connection, more then just a shared theme.

But the real problem is this is a greenwashed company, not a green host.   Their big claim to being green is that they buy energy credits, but so does British Petroleum.   At this point its hard to imagine BP having any positive environmental impact.   There is not a lot of detail given by companies that offer green credits for sale.

Greengeeks have alot of links that are in reference to being a green host.

The first link is

Here you find a link to this company,

I am not sure if I am correct in my assumption but it looks like you pay them per every page view you get or you are paying for traffic that you get from their site.  That or you can buy traffic from them.   But its unclear how this offsets carbon.  Not to mention this site seems to have mostly .dk / Denmark domains, which may have to do with them being from Denmark.  Not that I have a problem with doing business with a foreign company, but I like to know details.   For an organization that does so much, there are so few webpages with data on how they do it.  Not everyone sees the green movement as a way of life, some see it as something to capitalize on.   There also those that see that they don’t have to be green to capitalize off of the green sector.  Those are companies that are called greenwashed.  Its not clear as to what Greengeeks gets from this company other then a fancy banner, and perhaps greengeeks gets traffic.

On the same page I find their reseller program, where you can sell unlimited reseller accounts.   I have a hard time believing that unlimited hosting can be associated with quality hosting, let alone a company claiming to be a  green host.  Green and efficient are two words that come to mind when being eco-friendly  Effiecent technology is not cheap in the beginning, and for that matter technology thats not part of the main trend is not cheap.  The cheaper the hosting cost, the more customers the company needs to pile in to make a profit.

They have made the claim : “It is important that this industry becomes green and GreenGeeks is the world’s most eco-friendly web hosting company”  Other then a lot of pages telling people what to do and how they can be green.  There is nothing to show exactly how green they are,  the biggest thing that is missing are the numbers.   Numbers like the amount of electrify that they use per year.  Details are also missing like what company is receiving money to run wind generators.   I am looking at actual hosting companies that have their own data centers at buildings built from the ground up to be green.  Which include solar power straight to the source.  Not buying offsets.   They can be claim to leaning towards green when they talk about rigorous recycling of paper, but nothing in regards to equipment.  But clearly they a recycle text from their web pages.

The finale link I am going to review is

From here I find a link to the EPA.

I decided to contact the EPA, because I wanted to know if you really had to provide any proof in order to be a member.


Email Exchange with the EPA

From: Benjamin
To: Matt Clouse/DC/USEPA/[email protected], Blaine Collison/DC/USEPA/[email protected],Allison Dennis/DC/USEPA/[email protected]
Date: 08/03/2010 05:18 PM
Subject: In regards to green power partnership

Hello Matt, Blaine, or Allison,

I was wonder what documentation I would have to provide to be part of the green power partnership.

Thank you for your assistance.

To: Benjamin
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:21:10 -0400
Subject: Re: In regards to green power partnership


Thanks for your inquiry. The information requirements are included in

the Partnership Agreement here:

The program is designed to cover only commercial & institutional sector purchases. We’re not able to recognize residential partners at this time.

I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you have additional questions.


From: Benjamin
To: Blaine Collison/DC/USEPA/[email protected]
Date: 08/03/2010 06:35 PM
Subject: RE: In regards to green power patnership

Hello Blaine,

I am not seeing what the EPA requires an organization to submit as valid proof of participation. From what I see you merely take the word of the submitter as opposed to any documentation. Is this the case, or do you require copies of receipts and other valid documentation?



Subject: RE: In regards to green power partnership
To: Benjamin
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:10:30 -0400

Ah. Right you are, Benjamin. We don’t require that partners submit proof of purchase. We do, however, check our lists partners with the listed providers once or twice/year: This is what we think we have, could you, the providers, please confirm our understanding of your clients’ numbers?

Hope that helps.


RE: In regards to green power partnership‏
From: Benjamin
To: [email protected]

Hello Blaine,

I am actually contacting you for research in regards to green credits. So far I am not finding any information from the companies that provide credits and those using the credits. One of the companies that I am looking at is listed in your Green Power Partnership. But the only numbers that are given is 300%. There is no number telling me what their on the grid power consumption is. Or what companies the credit seller is getting the wind credit from.

I find it rather disturbing that the credit sellers, the companies that buy the credits, and the EPA are not disclosing numbers, facts. documentation and reasoning that a company is using renewable energy.



I never got a response back to my email from the EPA.  But it clear you do not have to give them valid proof to be in their green power partnership.  Without numbers and other data they can not prove that they are a green host.  Other then a lot of pages GreenGeeks has no relevant proof they are green,