Recommended Free Hosting – or you get what you pay for it

A question I have been getting lately is who do I recommend for free hosting.    Honestly I did not feel the free market needed much review.  Other then one company that tried to spam their affiliate link on my video on YouTube., was the spammer.   My own opinion about free hosting is not to expect much, and complaining about free hosting is for suckers.  There is no such thing as a free lunch comes to mind.  One of the last emails I got asked me for which free hosting had the most bells and whistles.  He had complaints about the load time on his site, the speed at which he got support, and too many limits.    Keep in mind he was paying nothing.

I am not going to explore free hosting on who is best

I have no need for free hosting.  I tend to favor having my own dedicated platform be it for business or personal use so I am not exactly the person to ask about shared hosting either.  I only had 4 shared hosting accounts they are all with godaddy.  Other then that I am doing vps and dedicated hosting.  But I am still shopping around for a better provider based on service.

My last host review with had me looking at their free hosting plans

** Our Free Web Hosting is different from other free hosting sites. We do not place banner ads or other distractingly big advertisements that might annoy your users. However, we place footer texts that mention our company name and the text size will not be big either. It will only be visible to users who scroll all the way down. Our free website hosting requires a one-time payment to set up your free web hosting. The package includes add-on features such as 3000+free website templates, 70+SEO tools, and rvsite builder. We have more than 10,000 satisfied clients who use our free web hosting services. They have often remarked with amazement about our server speed. We never oversell our free web hosting plan and pride ourselves in maintaining fast and efficient services.

There are flaws in this statement “your users” for one, and they don’t appear to actually have 10,000 clients, let alone 10,000 domains.

They don’t appear to have had any traffic  going on til the second quarter to this year.

If you happen to look through’s free hosting plans you will notice that there is a $4.99, $9.99, and $19.99 set-up fee (called a 1 time fee).  So its not truly free hosting.  Its also a convenient way for to have your credit card on file.

One last thing.  They offer a 45 day guarntee on their free accounts.  However the terms of service contradict this:

Money Back Guarantee

We offer a 45 days money back guarantee to our clients. This is valid only for GENUINE cases and we accept only relevant causes/reasons, for your dissatisfaction with our money back guarantee. Setup fee or add on packages will NOT BE REFUNDED for any hosting plan. It is to be well noted that KVCHosting reserves full rights to inquire about the website demanding money-back guarantee.

Until a further review of and other free hosts I did not realize how the different the free hosting market has changed since I used Geo-Cities  12 years ago.   There was no getting an affiliate commission for my sign up on geo-cities.

Translation: they reserve the right to not give you money back on a free hosting account

Frankly this is another host that I will have to review a year from now because I have a feeling things are going to change.  I imagine all the traffic they have gotten has come from the award sites.  According to they have spent nothing on goggle adsense.  I imagine they have not spent any thing on advertising anywhere.  Other then ‘biding’ on offers free hosting and you can earn $5 for every visitor that you send

One post that I have found which is proable the best post to explain why you should avoid this company is:

Its a bizarre setup, after all why would any one pay for visitors to a free hosting service?  Granted there are allot of former  affilates out there that claim that

While my opinion has not changed about free hosting, there are things to look out for.  There is a reason they are paying people to bring new people in.   Even though there are several times I have found the affiliates  are not getting paid.  So much so that there videos about it, tons of posts on forums and blogs.

The next host on my list offers free hosting

The first thing that comes to mind is I don’t get to see much details in regards to this free account.  Clicking on it brings me to a order form.  Keep in mind the ‘free domain’ is $19.95 if you choose to leave them.  But my post on will explore there free hosting service, and the lack of details in its offering.  The only reason I am exploring this is because they appear on’s top 25 list.

When it comes to free hosting, there really is not much to complain about.  You pretty much risk losing your site at any minute because the reoccuring income is not a motivator in keeping a free hosting customer.  At the same time if they charge a fee, its not truly free hosting. is where this site WAS hosted *UPDATED* was where this site first started. However a lot has changed since this was originally posted.  This site s currently hosted with Rackspace. The other sites I started with has since moved to other companies after January 2011.

I originally bought the domain for this site and hosted it with November 2007. I did this because I wanted to have my site on a  server separate from my hosting company servers.  Its no secret that this all started as a way to vent off frustration at (   In short I found they were deleting positive feed back for one of my sites.  After 72 hours of making and remaking the video and site; contacting many of the hosting companies found in the top reviews sites, my creative energies would soon seem spent.  I did not think much would come of what I had started.  At least until Google contacted me early 2010r to take up adsense.   I really did not think the video and a one page site would became a blog.  But when ever you find someone reviewing a host on you find my video next to theirs.  Even though my video has not got as many viewers as a cute kitten video, I am getting far more traffic then the videos to get people to sign up for hosting.

The Bad about

Lets face it, if your like me you want the good news last.  When I go to a mechanic, vet, dentist, doctor…….. and they tell you I have good news and I have bad news.   You cringe with a horrid thought of what the bad might be.  Good news matters less then what the foreboding bad may be.  I will say this about GoDaddy, the bad is not as bad as it could be.  I will say that before November 2007, I had never had a shared hosting account.  I had a geocities page and another free site from a company that went out of business.    I made the strange jump of going from free hosting straight to a dedicated server.   but till I got this Godaddy account I had never had a shared hosting account.

Sometimes getting a hosting solution with is a roll of the dice

I can say with confidence that I have not had a lot of problems with the shared hosting for on GoDaddy.  For that matter I have never contacted support in regards to this account.   Sometimes the site is slow to respond.  For that I think the site is getting to the point that it needs a more advance option.  But that’s not always the case because this year I got a three VPS accounts.   I got them at different times because I wanted my sites on different ips   2 of the sites are loading faster then this site, however the forth shared account (3rd bought this year) was offline every other day.  At the time of this post the site was down 2 times, for about 3 minutes each time.  This has happen over the course of 2 months.  Granted uninterrupted uptime is not vital to construction of this site, but it would be annoy on other sites that I might construct.

I also had two VPS accounts.  One of which  runs rather smoothly, but I can not say the same for the second.  Getting the second one set up was a pain and I closed that account down and took that to another company.  But to be honest I have not contacted Godaddy for resolution on this.  This is because I like speedy resolution but I don’t like having to call to get it.  I like companies that I can email, chat, or put a ticket in with.  If you ever looked at one of my phone logs it becomes clear why I hate spending time on the phone.  One wonderful example is I had spent 94 hours on the phone with Bank of America in 2008.

GoDaddy Tech support requires a phone call for faster service

In general I have not had a lot of support inquiries with GoDaddy.  But when I do it sometimes takes 24 hours to get a response.   Though I have found when I call them I tend to get the ball rolling faster.  Having owned 4 hosting companies I know that most customers prefer telephone support over ticket, email, and phone support.  I can not say that I am the same as I feel that I can give better details by a written system without having to repeat myself.  Not to mention over 11 years of dealing with suppliers on the phone. I feel a lot of time was wasted in phone communications.  That and I like documentation on my dealings with a company.

GoDaddy offers unlimited hosting

I am not exactly sure when they offered this, but I am no fan of unlimited hosting.  You read enough of my blog and you will see my position on hosting that clearly has limits when you try to test them.

The Good about

For almost three years I have had this site hosted with   Up till late May of 2010, this was a 1 page website.  During that whole time, I didn’t track the uptime and server response.    It was until I started other projects I that had to contact anyone at Godaddy for support.  During the life of this sites hosting account, I never contacted support in regards to this site.   Granted the most complex thing that I have had to do with this site is add WordPress, themes, and related add ons.  All of which was done without intervention from GoDaddy. But the traffic increase on this site lead to it moving to

GoDaddy has full integration from their customer login area

Back in the beginnings of my first company integration was a far off concept.  A customer had to send email (no ticket system at the time) to get an email or domain set up on the server.  It was not till perldesk (or perhaps an early program) and cPanel that integration started to unfold for my company.  Honestly I have to say in many ways I am envious of the system that they have.  Customers are able to get a dedicated ip without human intervention from GoDaddy staff.  Not to mention upgrade a share hosting account to more advance solution.   Though ticket support is no where near as fast as phone support.

Would I recommend GoDaddy?

It depends.  What are your needs?  Are you just starting?  Than perhaps a shared plan would be ok. Have a site that is not a heavy resource user?  As your site grows you might want to consider one of their more advance packages.  But honestly, I have kept no site long term with their company.  Would I recommend them for a large scale organization?  No I would not.

When it comes to a recommendation or opinion on a host I strongly suggest that you do your own research.  By no means does a post be it negative or positive mean that the person has your best interests at heart.  They may very well make a huge commission, of for that matter they may just be a disgruntle customer that no one can truly please that wants to hurt a hosting company.

My finale opinion for is they are an ok place to start up a site from, but not a long term solution.

Fatcow Sucks? Beware – Read this Fatcow Review first before Buying!!!

So next one, number 3 on’s top 25 is sort of a revisit of another company, iPage. However this is what’s page for fatcow says “Site Established: 29 Sep 1997 (12 years and 262 days ago) – Traffic Popularity: #46 of 10,293 companies. Some how its number three and in the forty sixth spot. If you read my previous post you will know that was blocking me, which I will write a post later demonstrating how I did it. At this point thanks to my isp, I have a new ip and the site is working again.

This time around instead of jumping into a trace route, as I am sure it will be the same as iPage. I am going to go through the affiliate program which works three different ways from their home grown program. I did not look to see if iPage had their own affiliate program, as I did not think at the time a company would want more then one system. But I should have looked at the partnership link at the bottom of the page. For which you get paid three different ways.

At Commission Junction The affiliate program is the same as, $100 – $125 payout per sale.

Speaking of affiliates, it appears there are a lot of complaints in regards to payments in a lot of the complaints I have found online. Another complaint I see is down time. Due to the complaints of affiliate payments that are rampant in search engine results, I would not recommend using fatcow’s affiliate program directly.

I almost have to wonder if fatcow has busy work for the web designers, or just a really busy auto blogger program:

Amazingly a organization that used the same graphics as Fatcow. I can’t say I find it surprising that they are hosting the site at Perhaps the same person that did the design for fatcow was paid to start a blog. Its not out of the realm of possibility, after all there are tons of people on that are willing to perform that sort of service.

Then there is,

I love how these sites all have an “unbiased” opinion, and they also have coupons for a special price. I always wonder why site that’s doing a review about a webhost also has coupon for you to click on to save. Perhaps the whole I have a coupon, I must be your friend theme. You listen to your friends right? I like to think of the coupon as more of a Trojan Horse.

Then there is this post:

They failed to mention their website hosted with fatcow, and I am more then certain is not hosting with I don’t see any affiliate links. But I question why someone thinks its ok to pay $20 for a domain when there are tons of fine companies out there you can find without doing much research for cheaper. After all the whole focus is on dirt cheap hosting, yet some how the domain costs $20 to buy. How the heck does a company that is doing so well and selling hosting with free domain, not capable of buying domains for $7 or less? Never mind the fees they pay Commission Junction, affiliates, Google,, and whomever else is promoting them.

Truth be told I don’t know of many customers in my 11 years that are going to spend as much time trying to tell you why they liked my hosting. After all they are generally busy with their own sites. I am happy with what few kind words they could offer out there that are found via search engine results. But the reviews / sites are bit long for a “real” happy customer. is the worst as it reflects on every aspect of their site. Every post / page has a banner to click on. Its not so much a review page as it is a brag page. You would almost have to believe that they were little to fanatic, and almost along the lines of a stalker. Though the truth is its nothing more the automated script that goes through fatcow pulling out material. The lazy method of making money.

Instead of doing a search on “fat cow sucks”, I did one on “fat cow coupon”, based on the amount of people paying for that search engine result I see a new trend.

The iPage and ipower connection

Last time I when I chatted with one of out sourced sales people in India, I was pointed to a connection between fatcow and iPage. Only because the person on the other side asked what link I was referring to, when I told him the main page he still persisted on asking for the link. Clearly a tech that only works with one company is going to know where the link to the main page is. Then there was also the in the trace route. I believed at the time there were more then two parties involved with this organization. Today I found when doing search with “fatcow bbb”. I am not saying I am fan of the Better Business Bureau, I have a great many complaints about this organization that has not adapted with the times. But this link confirmed my suspicions and raises another.

So iPage and Fatcow with 32 other sites are apart of:

Endurance International Group, Inc.

Easy CGI
The Endurance International Group, Inc.

I don’t see iPage on the list of sites, so I tend to wonder if there are more then what this company lists. But I see Ipowweb on the list thus verifying the connection I was looking for.

But has two interesting reviews in regards to what appears fatcow’s business status:


Both of which at different times 3 years a part had to do with a change in the companies handling.

The Chat Session and the ipower chat

I decided to try the same line of questions I had with iPage. Domains are more costly then if you want to keep them $15, iPage was $10.95. But then again the phone call to iPage stated that it was $15.00.

Vanessa Morris: Hi Benjamin. My name is Vanessa, how are you today?
Benjamin: Hello Vanessa
Benjamin: Fine, and yourself?
Vanessa Morris: I’m great, thank you. How can I help you today?
Benjamin: I can not find any information out about the corbanite service
Benjamin: I was wondering if you could tell me about it or provide me with a link with more information
Vanessa Morris: Sure.
Vanessa Morris: Could you please provide me the exact URL where you have clicked this LiveChat icon in our website?
Benjamin: its on the main page of your site?
Vanessa Morris: I would like to see the link.
Benjamin: you website only has one main page, you should be able to see that
Vanessa Morris: Thank you!
Benjamin: are you supporting other companies?
Vanessa Morris: May I place you on hold for 4 or 5 minutes, while I check this for you?
Benjamin: ok
Vanessa Morris: No, Benjamin. I need link for confirmation.
Vanessa Morris: Did you receive my last message?
Benjamin: I am still waiting on the carbonite info you said would take 4 – 5 minutes
Vanessa Morris: May I place you on hold for 4 or 5 minutes, while I check this for you?
Benjamin: I said “ok”
Vanessa Morris: Thank you for holding.
Vanessa Morris: Please refer:
Vanessa Morris:
Benjamin: I am also not sure what you need confirmation for. If you did not work for other companies you would not need a link to know what the main page of a website is.
Benjamin: I will look at that in a sec, I have a few other questions
Vanessa Morris: I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you. But we need your co-operation as we are in the process of enhancing the Chat icons on our website and during this period we want identify the exact page from where you have contacted us. This will help us to determine the list of pages from where we usually get the chats and organize the Chat icons in a better way.
Benjamin: that does not make any sense
Vanessa Morris: Is there anything else I can assist you with today?
Benjamin: as you would only have one main page and its, not sure what these enhanced chat icons are about.
Benjamin: anyway
Benjamin: If I decided I do not want to keep my hosting account, how much will it cost for me to keep my domain?
Vanessa Morris: If you cancel the account within 30 days and register free domain name, then we will deduct $15 from your refund for domain registration. You can transfer the domain to another registrar.
Benjamin: Your domain fee sounds a bit high, I think I will go with Directnic instead for a domain name. I don’t see the option to get dns sent to me on the order form, only transfer and register a new domain. Do you send me dns information?
Vanessa Morris: Yes, we will send information.
Vanessa Morris: If you wish, I will signup without any issue from our end.
Benjamin: I still need review your terms of service first
Benjamin: and I have only 2 more questions
Benjamin: Where are you located?
Vanessa Morris: Burlington, MA.
Benjamin: the servers as well?
Vanessa Morris: No, it is located in Boston.
Benjamin: Thanks Vanessa, the only thing that troubles me is the whole not knowing what your main page is, it really does not have me to confident that your not working for other companies.
Benjamin: anyway, I will look over the link for carbonite and should sign up if I like what I see
Vanessa Morris: I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
Vanessa Morris: If you wish to signup, please contact me.
Vanessa Morris: I will do it for you.
Vanessa Morris: Ask my name in chat.
Benjamin: ok have a good day
Vanessa Morris: Thank you for chatting. Take care and have a good day!

Vanessa, or whomever is playing as Vanessa in Mangalore, India. Was not willing to give me as much details as the guy in my chat with But like last time I was asked for the page I was asking for. Also there was that long pause (6 minutes) where I was waiting for information on one of their features. Which was beyond the 4 -5 minutes it took to Google their site for where the info might be.

Just for giggles I decided to chat with them again, since they were asking me for the webpage I though I would give them one different then or

Jerold King: Hi Benjamin. My name is Jerold King, how are you today?
Benjamin: Hello Jerold, I am fine how are you?
Benjamin: I can not find any information out about the corbanite service.
Jerold King: I’m great, thank you.
Jerold King: Can you please provide me with the website link where exactly you have clicked the Live Chat icon?
Benjamin: ipower
Jerold King: You can check for the Corbanite service at:
Jerold King:
Benjamin: thanks
Jerold King: Thank you for chatting with us. Please feel free to contact us at any time. We are available 24×7.

Jerold (or whomever he claims to be), decided to end our chat session rather quickly after giving me a link to Not giving me a chance to get more details or ask other questions. So there is defiantly more then one company involved in their support system. Perhaps why the chat system asked for an account id, as well as ticket number. I might try and get an account with them later to test the system out.

The Phone Call: Searching for Vanessa Morris of

The phone call was more interesting, because I asked to speak to Vanessa. Did I think I would get her (or is it he)? No, not at all. I did however expect fumbling around excuse after excuse as to why I could not. I was not disappointed, and now believe I need to start recording these phone calls. The phone operator I spoke to was in Phoenix Arizona, so within driving distance of myself. Not on the north eastern part of the country like Vanessa (who probable was not a Vanessa, and was probable on the opposite side of the planet from me). Perhaps this call center is actually an outsourcing company.

Clearly another company I can not recommend based on complaints of downtime, refund issues, over the top affiliate payments, and promises of unlimited space.

Justhost Just Sucks? Warning – Read this Justhost review first …

Second on the list is, I first mentioned this host when I brought up

Forgive me while I figure and fine tune the format. At the same time I had originally thought that I could spend part of my free time in a day and do a single review on each hosting company. There is a lot of information out there on just and JustHost,com. Spending an hour to sum up as much information as I find is not really all that feasible. So I will try to get what I can get out, and revisit these hosts when I review other webhosting review websites to expose. But here is what I dug up:

Looking at the trace route for this site I get the following information:

Traceroute to []

I see, who appears to be on’s servers. Its starting to seem that all webhosts are on’s servers.  Not a lot I can take from the trace route, but I like to look at where a hosts physical location might be.

A Rabid Advertising Campaign:

The bulk of my look at is that they seem to be on a rather aggressive advertising campaign. They seem to appear every where over night back in 2009. Which brings me to wants you to believe that there a great company with almost no negative feedback, despite the fact they did not suck. Atleast that is how it was at first, but later they changed it to they did suck so they had to recommend another host, but you had to scroll past the glowing review and affiliate link to see the disclaimer. But finale they changed the page and put this up:

Firstly, maybe we can take the negative feedbacks about any web hosting with a pinch of salt. According to a study conducted by America’s premier customer services research firm, TARP, customers are more likely to speak about a company when things go wrong rather than when they go right. On average, customers are twice as likely to talk about a bad experience as they are to share a positive one. So we can safely say that for every negative comment about Justhost, there are two more good Justhost reviews we did not hear about.”

However their original review as well as their policy to say something sucks, but not really while applying what they call an “unbiased” seems to have a copy cat site where the original post was later re-posted:

The problem is suck is not the only negative meaning that would turn someone from buying (fraud, downtime, up-time, terrible, bad, incoherent, poor, nasty, lame, evil, stupid, cheat …………….) I figured while looking, why not see what I get when I search for “just host sucks”, and to the left of google is 2 sites that are using those terms for their adwords: & Most of the sites on the first page of search engine results are affiliates. (that has no actual hosts that suck on it that I can see now), used complaints that did not seem valid to validate their “not” sucking.  But I have found a lot of complaints in regards to orders not being set up, and issues with getting it up or getting a refund. Multiple complaints of downtime and deleted content. In some cases people were told that they deleted their own content. I supposed you can trust these affiliates that choose to market on the word sucks with just host. All of which try (or not) to sound like some unbiased site that want to convince you that is the host for you. So where are they hosting?

Name Server: NS2153.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS2154.HOSTGATOR.COM
How about the sites that are using suck to determine if a host sucks (or really just trying to get you to buy Justhost hosting)?
Domain Name: AZHAN.COM
Name Server: NS1.NAME.COM
Name Server: NS2.NAME.COM

None of the 4 sites that I have looked at, and for that matter no site that promotes as the host to use, are hosting on After all if they are so good, why are they not using them?

So why are they everywhere in the search engines? seems to have two affilate programs.  Both of which have rather heavy pay outs, enough to encourage anyone and their dog to do what ever it takes to get their site in the top of search engine results.  Their own personally ran affiliate program can be found at:

Also they use Commission Junction, their policy is:

We are a first class web hosting provider that offer free domains, unlimited space, unlimited bandwidth, unlimited email accounts and the ability to host unlimited domains. We are committed to making web hosting simple and understandable for every user. We have ensured our sign up process is as straightforward as possible to ensure customers have no problems setting up their account. Customers will usually receive their login details within 10 minutes of subscribing, making the process swift and efficient for both the customer and the affiliate.

Just Host’s affiliate program gives you the ability to make up to $200 per sale and an additional $100 if you convert over 10 sales in a month. We offer two plans each available for 6, 12, 24 and 36 months, a sale qualifies as a subscription to any of these plans. Please see our commission structure below:

  • Just Plan & Premium Semi-Annual sign-up – $100
  • Just Plan 12, 24 and 36 month sign-up – $100
  • Just Premium 12, 24 and 36 month sign-up – $120
  • Just Reseller sign-up – $200!

We also offer an incentive of $100 if an affiliate sends us over 10 sales in 1 month. Our cookie referral period is 30 days. Just Host has a variety of banners, skyscapers and buttons to suit all sites along with text and content links.

We are heavily promoting Just Host online and in print. This exposure will greatly increase our customer base and our conversion rate which is one of the highest in our industry will continue to grow with our customers.

The Just Host team has over 10 years experience in web hosting and are dedicated to providing customers with the most reliable web hosting service possible. We guarantee affordable price plans, secure servers, first class 24/7 tech support and a wide range of features.

Looking at both it seems clear the one to go with if you want a big payout, its commission junction and not own affilate program. Both of which have rather insane payouts like

At the same time while they claim being 10 years old to their affiliates on commission junction, their domain registration says the domain was bought in 2002.

They claim on the BBB site that they were founded in 2002. But I have serious doubts, as the oldest piece of information that I have seen is no latter then 2008. I suspect that was just unused aged domain. I have many that I have never used some that are over 10 years old. I suspect this is the same case with and they are blatantly lying about their start date.

I admit they are a fast growing operation, but I imagine this is nothing more then another arm of another hosting operation. Much like what is to Its not my concern what they tell their affiliates, but that’s going to be what the affiliates tell people when they try to refer people.

Onto the chat and phone call with

I thought I would chat and call them since I had read a lot of complaints about English problems. I can tell you that there was a lot of copying and pasting going on. I actually stumped the person on chat for a whole three minutes on how much it would cost to keep my domain. $20 is a bit much. From the chat I could not see a lot of problems with English use, but this was just sales and clearly a lot of copy and past to my answers, due to cases where text was pasted and sent soon after one another.

Chat start time Jun 13, 2010 5:23:09 PM EST

Chat end time Jun 13, 2010 5:30:55 PM EST

Duration (actual chatting time) 00:07:46

Operator Andrew

Chat Transcript

info: All our operators are currently assisting others customers. You are currently in position 1 Thank you for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.

info: You are now chatting with ‘Andrew’

Andrew: Welcome to Live Chat support, how may I help you?

Benjamin: Hello Andrew, I just found your site had a few questions

Benjamin: If I change my mind how and decided to cancel, how much will my domain cost to keep?

Andrew: If you cancel your account we will provide you with a full refund for the remainder of your term, excluding any setup fees that were charged when you signed up, and excluding domain registration fees. (Even if you received your domain for free through one of our promotional plans)

Andrew: The domain registration fee we incur on each domain registration is $20.00. So all refunds are subject to a $20.00 registration fee charge, but you will own the domain name afterwards.

Benjamin: Your cost seems a bit high on the domain, I think I will go to another domain register for my domain. On the order form it only indicates buy new domain or transfer. Do you give me dns so I can change it with my domain register?

Andrew: So you want to signup hosting with your existing domain, right ?

Benjamin: a domain I am buying from godaddy

Benjamin: $20 is a bit much if I decided I do not like your company

Andrew: Ok… For this select the option ‘I already own my domain name’. In this case your domain will stay with your registrar and you can host it with us. Also, please note that we initiate the transfer of domain only if you place a request with us for the same.

Andrew: Our name servers are as below




Benjamin: that will not try to transfer my domain?

Andrew: Right

Benjamin: ok

Benjamin: where are your servers located?

Andrew: Our Data Center is in Chicago US

Benjamin: are you located at that center?

Andrew: Yes

Benjamin: nice, many hosts don’t seem to staff their centers.

Benjamin: thanks I will order sometime tonight.

Andrew: You are most Welcome !!

Andrew: Is there anything else I can help you with?

Benjamin: nope have a good day

Andrew: Thank you for visiting Hosting Support. Should you have any queries or require any further information, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Andrew: We are pleased to bring to your attention the following offer.

Andrew: Let us take away any worries of accidental deletion or modification of your website or files by backing up your site on a daily basis. If you ever need a previous days backup, just let us know and we will happily restore or upload backups for you – $19.95 per year.

Andrew: Have a nice day!! Good Bye.


After I said “nope have a good day”, I got a barrage of sales copy and pastes, and the operator left before I could ask about the back up service. I figured I would try covering that with a phone call. After the automated system transferred me to sales I was stuck for 3 minutes of ringing. I hung up before trying to see if I could make it 4 minutes. You would figure they would have a answering machine to tell me that they are not open and when to call…… if they were not open.

Onto the complaints:

The BBB has 169 complaints at present, though not all are viewable, here is what the BBB states about those complaints:

Complainants allege a variety of billing and refund related problems. Customers complain that previously undisclosed fees are added to billings, or that advertisements for service at $3.95 per month failed to disclose that in order to get the discounted rate, customers must agree to be billed two years in advance. Other complainants allege they were unable to send emails or were advised that they must upgrade their service in order for basic services to function properly. Many customers complain they are unable to communicate with the company to resolve problems due to the company’s email only policy, or that tech support does not resolve problems. Some complainants allege the services are not as represented, or that the company falsely advertises a 90% uptime rate. The company responds to complaints by issuing refunds or partial refunds and agreeing to close accounts along with apologies for any inconveniences. One or more complaints are unresolved meaning the company failed to properly address the complaint allegations or their response was inadequate.”

This is not the only organization that has multiple complaints:

There are many more non-affiliated sites that are reporting multiple issues with

The reasons I give to not buy from are as follows:

  1. Probable no more then a 2 year old company at best, and they are using an aged domain name. I can not find much information that shows they were in business prior to 2009. The BBB states they signed up with them in 2009. However I know BBB asks when you start, and don’t actually look for business licenses. Most complaints are in 2009, and I am having a hard time finding anything from 2008 or before then.
  2. Keeping your domain with them is a $20 charge, they claim that’s what it costs them. But there are tons of domain registration programs that cost most hosting companies $8 or less.
  3. Multiple complaints of accounts not being set up when ordered.
  4. Multiple complaints on getting a refund.
  5. Complaints of content being deleted
  6. Complaints of poor tech support, in many cases musical chairs between departments.
  7. Complaints of constant down time
  8. Heavy affiliate commission payouts that encourage false advertising just to make a sale., where it all began

This is the site that got me involved into exposing the evils of web reviews and top of lists for pay.

First off lets take a look at their whois information:

Registrant Contact:

   W3Centric Network Pte Ltd
   Michael Low ()
   9 Bukit Batok Central Link
   Singapore, SE 658074

While I can’t off  hand back up with facts, I am going to say that the bulk of webhosting companies are from the United States.   Especially those that lists in their top 1 – 25.  But unlike those companies, this website is clearly not from the United States.  Though at this time they appear to be on SoftLayer Technologies Inc servers.

Here is the link I get a kick out of, and I am sure it was not there when I looked2 years ago.

In a nut shell they claim to be pure of heart and that they would never delete negative comments (though no claims on not deleting positive feed back on people they do not get paid by).  That there system can keep tracks of the traffic on the 10,530 webhosts listed in their data base (though the site only lists 10,293).  Which is hard to believe, but if it were true they would have number to back up their claims.   But at the same time they have lied about not deleting feed back.  Which when you look at host gator.

Back in September 2008 according to They had a 80% approval rating.   Now some how we have to believe that they are never deleted any negative feed back.  After all Hostgator now has a flawless 5 star rating.  Regardless a 100% rating is really hard for me to believe.   In my years of webhosting I would say that atleast 90% of my customers were happy with my service I was providing them.   But finding positive feed back from them posted online was next to impossible.   It was always easier to find negative feed back from people that I, or for that matter no one could please.
Then there is this tidbit of interest at,


September 8th, 2008 at 10:54 am

Number 2 is defiantly new according to WhoIs Info: Creation Date: 24-feb-2008

This is a company that is not even in business, but yet its listed still in’s data base

The only person to have given them a review appear to have an inactive website.

Here is what says about HostDawgs: Uptime: 0.00%
Site Established: Unknown Traffic Popularity: #3,920 of 10,293 companies

Somehow a site with zero uptime is 3,920 out of 10,293 sites.

Does this mean that is keeping track of close to 7,000 defunct websites? When you goto it takes you to GoDaddy’s generic landing page for newly registered domains.

Also keep in mind that used to be number 2 on’s top 25 list, search engine results are few and far between, and seldom taking me to anything relevant to

However if you go look up’s ranking’s at webhostingstuff here is what it says:

Site Established: 2 Mar 1999 (11 years and 99 days ago)Traffic Popularity: #2 of 10,293 companiesThe GoDaddy site was established 11 years and 99 days ago since 2 Mar 1999.

Their website’s popularity is ranked #2 of about 10,293 hosting companies listed here – based on the estimated number of visitors to GoDaddy’s website.

I am a bit confused, was supposed to be number 2, and I don’t see on the top 25 at all.

Site Established: UnknownTraffic Popularity: #21 of 10,293 companiesTheir website’s popularity is ranked #21 of about 10,293 hosting companies listed here – based on the estimated number of visitors to Just Host’s website.

It looks like gets to stay on the top 25 based off of what ever number that is not willing to share with its vistors.  But still it does not make sense.  So I figured lets try a few others:

Site Established: 15 Nov 2002 (7 years and 205 days ago)Traffic Popularity: #8 of 10,293 companiesThe BlueHost site was established 7 years and 205 days ago since 15 Nov 2002. Their website’s popularity is ranked #8 of about 10,293 hosting companies listed here – based on the estimated number of visitors to BlueHost’s website.

Another host not in the top 25 ,Bluehost

Site Established: 27 Apr 1998 (12 years and 43 days ago)Traffic Popularity: #11 of 10,293 companies The Network Solutions site was established 12 years and 43 days ago since 27 Apr 1998. Their website’s popularity is ranked #11 of about 10,293 hosting companies listed here – based on the estimated number of visitors to Network Solutions’s website.

Wow, Network solutions is not on the list, but according to the traffic popularity it should be 11.

So what about the one thats listed number 1:

Site Established: 24 Mar 1995 (15 years and 78 days ago)Traffic Popularity: #60 of 10,293 companiesThe iPage site was established 15 years and 78 days ago since 24 Mar 1995. Their website’s popularity is ranked #60 of about 10,293 hosting companies listed here – based on the estimated number of visitors to iPage’s website.

So, in conclusion: can not even by their own numbers validate where websites rank in regards to their popularity.  They are just as bad as those companies they claim are not legit.  But just for fun, lets take their actually rankings and stack them against those in the top 25 list.  Bold face lie does not even cut it, this is a web of lies.

Its pretty funny, but there is only one site that has the right position according to its rankings and that is HostGator, and only one other site that should be in the top 25 and thats which should be number 21 not number 2.  All the others are 51 – 3555.

Listing in top 25 – actual ranking – company name

1 – 60 – iPage

2 – 21 – Just Host

3 – 46 – FatCow Web Hosting

4 – 77 – Arvixe Web Solutions

5 – 5 – HostGator

6 – 51 – InMotion Hosting

7 – 92 – MochaHost

8 – 2633 – nativespace

9 – 349 – Interactive Online

10 – 3555 – IoxHost

11 – 298 – Essentials Hosting

12 – 1065 – Greenville Host

13 – 200 – Omnis Network

14 – 2271 – Identity Website Hosting

15 – 59 – Site5 com

16 – 232 – 2GB Hosting

17 – 172 – Green Geeks

18 – 909 – Cloud bg

19 – 74 – iWeb Technologies Inc

20 – 530 – Indichostsnet

21 – 365 – Scala Hosting

22 – 103 – Steadfast Networks

23 – 764 – LFC Hosting

24 – 3382 – Netmar

25 – 1180 – ThePrimeHost

Curious about who would be number 1?  I found out by accident.  I wanted to see where Yahoo ranked, and surprise surprise they were number 1. clearly states:

Web Hosting Stuff uses a Quality Scoring method to rank hosting companies featured within each hosting category.

The Quality Score for each web host is calculated using realtime visitor statistics and other quality indicators.

By using quality indicators such as visitor statistics, the system is able to determine which web hosts visitors liked.

To build a fair and honest ranking system, ranking is always performed automatically by the system – free of human interference.

Unlike some dubious “top 10 hosting sites”  that promote web hosts based on affiliate commissions, our fair and honest ranking system helps visitors find the real top web hosting companies.

I wonder what these other quality indicators are, perhaps this link can point us to it:

I have not actually seen any advertising on their site, so this is a bit of a curious link.