webhostinglogic.com – Your source for over priced domains

Webhostinglogic.com is my fifth host review of 8 hosts for October 2010 webhostingstuff.com’s top 25. What strikes me about this site is that its cluttered.  I am not sure the point of putting tons of links and distracting graphics on the main page of a site.  Much of what I see on the main page of webhostinglogic towards the bottom of the screen belongs in on a package page.  The main page of hosting site should not overwhelm, but invite you to explore the site further.  Instead I find information scattered around the main page of webhostinglogic.com.

Does webhostinglogic offer a free domain or a $20 domain?

If you read enough of my posts you will know I have a gripe with cheap and bulky resource hosting.  I also have a gripe with free domains with hosting.  Mostly because that was a ploy that hosting companies use to keep customers, now they charge an obsene amount to keep the domain.  Yet I have issues with costly domains.  Paying $20 domains for a domain is like paying McDonald $20 for a cheese burger and fries.  Domains are one of those things that you can afford to go cheaper with, at this time I don’t know of many cheap domain registers expect those that offer free domains with the hosting that I would advise avoiding.  There is not much involved service level wise with a domain.  Once again I can not stress enough that its not a good idea to keep your domain with the same company that you start out hosting with.  Maybe after a few years when you decide you like your host, but even then there is that chance that the host could be bought out by someone that could care less about the management of your service.

Regardless if your first domain is free with webhostinglogic.com $20 is a lot to pay for extra domains.

So whats odd about the terms of service for webhostinglogic?


I can’t stress it enough, you have to read the terms of service with anyone you sign up  with.  Webhostinglogic is a good reason to read the terms of service.

Web Hosting Logic accounts cannot be transferred or used by anyone other than the subscriber. Customers may not sell, lease, rent or assign the connection or parts of the connection to any party not named in this Policy. Customer may allow ftp access to its server and host web sites for its customers without violating this Policy. Network bandwidth charges in excess of allocated amount will be assessed from access log reports generated by the HTTPD server.

So there is an anti reseller clause in the terms of service, that I can understand.  What I can not understand is the anti transfer of ownership clause.  If a customer contacted me and told me that so and so was to take over an account, I did not think twice about the transfer.  Did I say that I like money?  Allowing someone to keep someone else account and not having to register a new account is less fuss.  Its like that argument I have with the utility company when ever I paid them via phone:  They wanted me to confirm who I was, yet I could care less who pays my bill so long as they can not modify my service.  By the same token I don’t care who pays for an account as long they abide by the terms of service.

If a customer re-registers after Web Hosting Logic’s cancellation of the account without Web Hosting Logic’s written consent, Web Hosting Logic will cancel Customer’s account and all dues and fees paid to date regardless of whether service has been rendered will be forfeited. Additionally, any amounts due will be immediately payable.

Ok so your not allowed to reregister with them after they canceled your account.  So what makes them think they can bill you for service they will not provide?

At the time of account cancellation, a Cancellation Code will be provided. If accounts are billed in error after the Cancellation date, credits will only be issued with a valid Web Hosting Logic Cancellation Code. If cancellation is done in writing, it will be the responsibility of the Customer to contact Web Hosting Logic for the Cancellation Code.

Can you say charge back?  If you canceled your account, they are not authorized to bill your credit card.  Its their responsibility to not do unauthorized charges.

Use of Web Hosting Logic’s hosting services could involve listing subscriber’s participation in relevant directories, and subscriber expressly grants permission for such listings.

Does this mean that they can list you as a user for commercial purposes?  That seems like a violation of customer privacy.

Although all hosting plans contain an exceptional amount of data transfer, each plan is subject to a surcharge in the event usage exceeds the allotted free bandwidth for that plan. Customer is responsible for charges related to bandwidth exceeding the plan’s allotted data transfer.

So whats the fee for exceeding bandwidth? The last one I have an issue with is number 19, its not something that belongs in the terms of service as the victim of a copy right violation is not going to be subject to the terms of service.  This belongs in a completely different page along the lines of abuse.

Last thoughts on webhostinglogic

The question I ask is how did webhostinglogic get into the 18th spot?  After all you look at the number of reviews on webhostingstuff.com you come up with zero.  The webhostinglogic.com was registered in 2001.  Looking at the way back machine its does not appear that they are using an aged domain.  But the most commonly used review sites have nothing for this host.  Despite having a score under 1 million with Alexa I am not sure that webhostinglogic has been doing much in the way of business.

Domain Registry of America – I suggest avoiding droa.com !!!SCAM!!! – !!!BEWARE!!!

I got a letter from Domain Registry of America today (droa.com) by snail mail.  Problem is they are not my register, as I own mine.  After all when you own as many domains as I do you want to try and get them as cheap as possible and $30 per domain per year is breaking the bank.   Last year my brother decided to do one of these renewals because he had forgotten what site his domain was registered with (which was the same as where I have my domains registered).   Last I checked he was still trying to transfer his domain away from this company.  I can some what understand customers forgetting who they got their domain through, but you would think family would be walking advertisements for a website with only 10 letters in it.  Especially when you give them free hosting.

Unfortuanly my scanner is not working so I could not get the best possible quality copies of the notice that Domains Registry of America sent me.  This will give you a rough idea of how small of print Registry of America used on their fine print on the back of the notice.

Here is what they sent me:

As a courtesy to the domain name holders, we are sending you this notfication of the domain name registers that are due to expire in the next few months.  When you switch to Domain Registry of America, you can take advantage of the best savings.  You will expire on January 5, 2011. Act today!

You must renew your domain name to retain exclusive rights to it on the web, and now is the time to transfer and renew your names from your current Register to the Domain Registry of America.  Failure to renew your domain name by the expiration date may result in a loss of your online identity making it difficultfor your customers and friends to locate you on the web.

Privatization of Domain Registrations and Renewals now allows the customer the choice of Registars when intially registering and also when renewing a domain name.  Domain name holders are not obligated to renew their domain with their current Register or with the the Domain Registry of America.  Review our prices and decided for your self.  You are under no obligation to pay the amounts stated below, unless you accept this offer. This Notice is not a bill. it is rather an easy means of payment should you decided to switch your domain registration to Domain Registry of America.

Here is the problems with this “notice from Domain Registry of America:

  1. Their offer is not going to be cheaper then most domain registers.
  2. There is nothing convenient about a mail in payment form.
  3. They are not clear about” not” being “your” register.
  4. There is no valid arguement to “You must renew your domain name to retain exclusive rights to it on the web, and now is the time to transfer and renew your names from your current Register to the Domain Registry of America.”. Why should you renew your domain with a register that costs 2 – 3 times of other providers.
  5. They use fear “Failure to renew your domain name by the expiration date may result in a loss of your online identity making it difficultfor your customers and friends to locate you on the web.”. I hope your friends can find you without a website, if you need a website for your friends to find you get a facebook.com account.

This notice is paper spam.

How did Domain Registry of America find me?

Most of the time I purchase Private Registration with all my domains, as I don’t really want people getting a hold of my contact details.    But I missed two domains and they found my contact in formation by trolling for whois info.  Next thing I know I get one of their postal mails that pretend to be my domain register.  The funny thing is with their over cost domain renewal they give you free private registration to prevent competitors from doing the same thing to them.

Is Domain Registry of America your domain registration company?

Chances are they are not your register, if you are I would suggest migrating.    Most companies charge less then $15.   Frankly I find that you can go below $10 on .com’s and get fairly good service.  But to be honest there is not a whole lot of service to ask for when it comes to a domain.  Private Registration is usually extra but still far below $30 for the domain and private registration.

How do you see if your domain is registered with Domain Registry of America?

Its pretty simple, often when my customer forgot who they registered their domain with I would go to http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx enter the domain name and select “domain whois record”.  From there you can find your register.

As you can see I have private registration because their is no contact details and you can see this domain is registered with with GoDaddy(actually the only one that is).

How can you prevent companies that suck like Domain Registry of America from trying to take advantage of you?

Simple, get Private Registration on your domains.  Contact your domain register about getting this service some times free some times a couple bucks per year.   If your domain register does not offer Private Registration its time to move to a new register.

I can not stress it enough avoid Domain Registry of America

Its my opinion that Domain Registry of America is a scam,  it may be legal what they are doing because they have it listed some where in the really small fine print on the back of the billing notice they sent me.  But just because its legal does not make it ethical.   I suggest avoiding Domain Registry of America like the plague.

scalahosting – Is there dirt on scalahosting.com?

Scalahosting was number 21 of 25 for Webhostingstuff.com’s  May 2010 list. But now they are at 16.   The owner of the companies name is Vince Robinson.  But details are sketchy at best as there is not much to go on.  Sure there lots of positive reviews about scalahosting.   But I suspect there may be one too many positive reviews.  Especially after my last post on how to write reviews.

So why am I suspicous of the postive reviews about Scalahosting on Webhostingstuff.com?

A claim of housing 18,000 domains seems honest.  But it does not tell us how many customers they have.   Back when I first started I would say that was a lot of domains (1999 I was still buying domains at $70 from Network Solutions).   But towards 2005 it would seem far less as cheaper domain registers were popping up every where.   I had one customer that had over 400 domains all of which were for an affiliate system with Rexxal (atleast I think that was the company).  Scalahosting seems to have alot of postive reviews and very few negative.

A not so kind review about Scalahosting on webhostingtalk.com

It has to do with the webhostingtalk.com discussion.


Why might you ask does this review matter?  Because this is not the only place he tried to post a review:



I have not looked further because one of the problems I have had while searching for negative feed back is I get stuck in pop up hell and sites that change to something that is by no means ‘G’ rated.    But it stands to reason if he found these two sites and made a page dedicated to it on his site that he probable found webhostingstuff.com and other companies.  Frankly there seems be more information on review sites then any other sites

My Finale thoughts on Scalahosting

Its probable nothing, but Scalahosting is on the same network as webhostingstuff.com.


Here is an inhterview with the founder of Scalahosting Vince Robinson:


I admit there is not a lot of dirt on this company, and perhaps they deserve their postive feed back.   But I have to wonder about this one negative reviewer that seem to have a vendetta with this hosting company.  Why would he not find webhostingstuff.com to post a review there as well?

As long as Scalahosting shows in the top 25 hosting postions with webhostinstuff, I recommend caution.