Hostthenprofit.com – The Guru Approval Video

Per one of my earlier posts, I had recieved spam from a mlm front for GVO called Hostthenprofit.com.

http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com/?p=2706

In short its a bunch of self proclaimed gurus that tell you:

GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY BY LOCKING IN YOUR POSTION AND EXPLODE YOUR PROFITS NOW!

I wish I could claim for some level of exaggeration here, but that is an actual quote from their site right down to the all caps.  It’s all intended to lure you in.  But I can assure you results that they choose to show case are far from typical.  More about the package they offer you at a later date.

When I first looked into this site I found it had just started back in September, despite the domain being bought early this year.  The traffic statistics are very impressive.  I am most wager it was in part to the spamming on places such as YouTube (where they spammed my personal account), forums, blogs, and where ever else they could find a voice. GVO notified so called gurus with large mailing lists in regards to hostthenprofit.com.  After all this was how my first company got started, even though ties with a certain guru out of Utah that will remain nameless (though now that I think about it there was no non-disclosure agreement).  Something about variable flows of cash, well not those words but pretty close.  Other links were still available to these so called gurus.  Some of the stories I have about these gurus would make any normal person cringe.  Perhaps I may go into that at a later date.  But it’s really off topic.

Hostthenprofit.com – Results not Typical

That of coarse is what they should have in bold writing.

What I find interesting is that the original video at the top is no longer there, no worries a quick search of YouTube and I found it as well as tons of other people pushing hostthenprofit.com. The video software these guys claims to offer makes me wonder if it’s nothing more than a re-brander.  Considering YouTube is not too found of multiple copies of the same video.  I have to wonder if it changes the timing of sequences and other things to trick the system.

Here I find several gurus.  Tons of affiliates have been flooding search engine results for hostthenprofit sucks, hostthenprofit scam, and hostthenprofit review.  I noticed the same was not true for all the gurus.  Though some guru’s affiliates have flooded the results in regards to their domain.  At this time it’s not even 2 months since the site started.

Hostthenprofit.com videos with Guru approval

Mike Filsaime – HostThenProfit.com video testimonial

I have checked through several of the gurus but this one stands out the most.  The thing that bothered me was this guy claimed to have been with GVO for 5 years, and that he would not run his business with any other data center. Problem is he does not tell you what his sites are; you have to rely on search engine results to find his site(S).  One of which appears to be mikefilsaime.com, and it’s hosted on Road Runner apparently since its creation 2004.  Where is hostthenprofit.com’s main host site gogvo.com network wise and how old is this domain?

network:Org-Name:Road Runner Commercial

Creation date: 18 May 2009 23:28:00

Funny thing is they are supposed to own their own network center. I have to say I am curious to why they are hosted with Road Runner.

Of coarse if I am wrong about GVO  and Hostthenprofit they should be more then happy to provide proof of success.

000webhost.com, its really not a good idea to spam on my YouTube account

For some bizarre reason today I find three attempts to put affiliate links in the comments on my video. Clearly affiliates of 000webhost.com are not paying attention, especially since I decided to go after whybluehost.com (I am actually not done yet).

What I am trying to understand is if you give free hosting away with no advertisements, how can you afford to pay $5 per referral? Their website while clear on pointing out referral payments does not state costs of any other service.

Clearly the free service is not worth the effort of even looking at the site:

http://www.web-hosting-top.com/web-hosting/web-hosting-top.000webhost.com/type/add-review

http://www.thecaymanhost.com/hosting-reviews/beware-free-hosting-with-000webhostcom

But I see no terms of service on 000webhost.com

However on the paid site http://www.hosting24.com/tos.php

There are no guarantees at all that you will have service.

Plus this is some interesting legal mumbo jumbo:

Clients are encouraged to pay by credit card as it is the easiest way to handle payment at this time.

These companies should be avoided.

Whybluehost.Com, Is Not The Place To Try And Be An Affiliate For Bluehost.Com

Checking my YouTube account I find another business offer this time from whybluehost.com.   Problem is they want to rip you off $43 per referral.   I suppose the offer of a free iPad would make the  difference though you could proable just go directly to bluehost.com and use the extra  $1075 to buy a Apple iPad Tablet (64GB, Wifi + 3G).  That does not even cover the the next 25 sales where you could buy your friend one. Sell 500 accounts and you can buy 20 iPads and have an iPad party with 19 of your closest friends with the extra money, if your an affiliate of bluehost.com.   Then again you could be a chump and let whybluehost.com have an extra $21,500.

Below is the email they sent me and my response to them:

______________________________________________

Date:  Jun 05, 2010
Subject: Buisness Proposal

Hello,

My name is Chris. I am the head of a marketing team trying to promote a new site (http://www.whybluehost.com). This site offers reviews and
hosting advice for anyone looking to buy their hosting service from Bluehost (one of the premier web hosting services on the net today). In an effort to crank up our promotion we have decided to give away a free iPad after the first 25 sales are completed. The first 25 people to purchase Bluehost hosting through our site will be entered into this contest.

I have contacted you today, because I would like your help to promote our new site. Using your YouTube account I would ask you to promote this FREE iPad giveaway in anyway that you can.

So your probably wondering “Why would I want to do that? There is nothing in it for me.”

To that I would say, you will be paid for each sale you direct us. The more traffic you send to our site the higher your chances of getting a sale. So tell everyone you can about this and you will be rewarded for your hard work.

I have broken down the payment information in the section below.

BREAKDOWN

25 sales $550
20 sales $450
15 sales $330
10 sales $225
5 sales $112
1 sale $25

You can potentially be paid anywhere from $100 to $500 just for taking ten minutes out of your time to post a link on one your popular videos about our giveaway. (Your iPad and high view count videos preferably)

Remember the more traffic you send to our site the greater your chances of being paid.

Now your probably thinking “Wow this is a good idea but how will you track our sales?”

When all 25 sales have been made we will go down the list and track all of the sales from a special HTML link we will provide you with to put into your video. From there we will add up the amount of sales you have provided us with and send a payment to you immediately.

All that will be required from you is to have an active paypal account (they are free to make). Also, you do not have to worry about time constraints on this promotion. This offer will last until we reach 25 sales.

There are many ways that you could increase your chances of getting a sale. Here are a few examples off of the top of my head.

* Put a link in the description
* Add a thumbnail to the video
* Talk about it in a video
* Put a thumbnail on multiple videos
* Make a video about it
* Tell your friends

If this YouTube promotion proves to be successful there is a high possibility that we will do this same promotion again with a different product.

If you are interested in helping to promote our site and the free iPad for the first 25 sales email me and I will provide you with a special HTML link. (This HTML link will basically send the watchers of your videos to our site but the special code that we will provide you with will tell us that you referred them to our site thus giving you credit for the sale.)

Here are my personal emails if you are interested.

sighter777@gmail.com
christopherseiter1@gmail.com

I would like to thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Chris

______________________________________________

My Response to Chris of whybluehost.com

Chris,

You clearly are not paying attention to what my site is about or watched the video, nor have you seen that I recently added a blog.

http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com/

If I remember correctly bluehost.com was also a user of webhostingstuff.com, not exactly a company that gets any high marks with me.

Secondly you do realize the more I refer to you the less I get paid right?  By the time I get to 25 sales I am getting $22 per sale.  That’s an extra $75 for you to keep.  After all I could by pass you and go directly to bluehost.com for 65$ per referral.  $1075 extra I would get for not using you to refer people to bluehost.com, that I could use to buy myself the best possible iPad that is available.

Thanks for giving me more content for my next blog post.

http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com/bad-affiliate-programs/whybluehost-com-is-not-the-place-to-try-and-be-an-affiliate-for-bluehost-com.html

Best Regards,

Benjamin

______________________________________________

Bottomline: Don’t send a business proposal to a website with a blog that is going after those that use fake reviews, fake ratings, and high affiliate payouts.  Your likely to be their next blog post.

The worst part: is whybluehost.com is not even hosted on bluehost.com, but hostgator.com.  Seriously why should I host on blue host if they don’t?